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SJfreebreather	Can this place be any less active?	Lead	[-]
(05/11/10 10:55:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None Remove this ad Can this place get anymore dead? Is there anyone that is interested in this crap?
PMAshton		#1	[-]
(05/12/10 15:16:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	They were so focused on silencing those who disagreed with them that when they were finally gone, no one had anything to say to each other. After everyone was calling others shills and pushing people away, you wonder why this message board is dead? It is sad to say, but the so-called trolls were keeping the communications alive. People can only post aerosol trail photographs and NWO "what ifs" for so long, until it gets boring even to the poster.
IndigoStarseed	What the Heck?	#2	[-]
(05/22/10 01:03:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I agree! I think I've finally hit on something remotely interesting and it's freaking cricket, city in here. I used to post on this board *a lot* about 4-5 yrs. ago. I've been busy, and while I've been busy, things continue to change around me. I address it in here and I can't even get so much as a boo hiss...........what gives peoples???? Have you all finally gotten on the SHART wagons that have taken your opinions and gut level instincts??? This board SUCKS now, I must say!! Boo hiss to all of you sheeples. May you live well amongst the odd towers being placed every 300 yards......as if cell phones are that FARKING important!!!
SJfreebreather		#3	[-]
(05/24/10 11:26:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Still need proof this is going on? Dont allow the disinfo agents to keep us silent. All that evil needs to gain a foothold is for good men to stay silent... (Reworded, but you get the meaning.) These following docs prove to anyone with a brain chemtrails do exist! http://www.ecd.bnl.gov/st...wartzGrandChallengeW.pdf http://www.igac.noaa.gov/...c38/Apr_2008_IGAC_38.pdf http://www.climatescience...cspstratplan2003-all.pdf http://www.asp.bnl.gov/AS...Andrews_AerosolProps.pdf http://www.asp.bnl.gov/AS...t.al_AgingUrbanPlume.pdf http://www.asp.bnl.gov/AS...WG_AWG_Agenda_Fall09.pdf http://www.asp.bnl.gov/ASRprogrammaticQuestions.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...2009/acp-9-3721-2009.pdf http://cires.colorado.edu...8011518_pub_complete.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-8469-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...2009/acp-9-1537-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy.../2009/acp-9-189-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-2645-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...09/acpd-9-12207-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...pd-9-3555-2009-print.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-3811-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-6617-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...2009/acp-9-3331-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...2009/acp-9-4915-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-meas-tec...5/2009/amt-2-15-2009.pdf http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ac901478p http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-4805-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...09/acpd-9-21237-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-4417-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...08/acpd-8-15375-2008.pdf http://cires.colorado.edu...803534f_Pub_Complete.pdf http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/es9006004 http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-2699-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy.../2009/acp-9-945-2009.pdf http://www.ecd.bnl.gov/pubs/BNL-81485-2009-JA.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...2009/acp-9-3049-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...2009/acp-9-5669-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-5009-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...2009/acp-9-2949-2009.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-8377-2009.pdf http://cires.colorado.edu...nce_Jimenez_Complete.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...2009/acp-9-3721-2009.pdf http://www.atmos.washingt...24%20Quaas%20et%20al.pdf http://www.atmos-chem-phy...009/acpd-9-8469-2009.pdf Last Edited By: SJfreebreather 05/24/10 11:34:37. Edited 1 times.
Thor		#4	[-]
(05/24/10 12:25:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	DO you understand that the word "aerosol" refers to particulate matter ALREADY in the atmosphere? Particulate matter from pollution, dust, volcanoes etc...The word "aerosol" does not mean "spraying" as we once did from aerosol cans. http://www.eoearth.org/article/Aerosols A good portion of the documents you listed were in relation to the MILAGRO 2006 campaign- where they conducted a large study of the pollution of Mexico City. http://www.atmos-chem-phy...0/acpd-10-7819-2010.html Can you please explain how studying the effects of particulate matter already in the atmosphere is "proof" that every persistent contrail is really a "chemtrail"? Can you please point out where in all the documents you posted, they mention the spraying of barium via contrail. Can you, in fact, point out where ANYTHING AT ALL is mentioned about "chemtrails".
shambhala		#5	[-]
(05/27/10 21:35:33) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	You don't understand anythnng!!! I have heard of the hybrid black ops.... I have first hand knowledge. i can't talk about that part of my life though, it is too dangerous to my family to do so. I know they follow at all times but theyd iontsee it seems like all of the moves made by the scum revolve around the hybrid goal. Hybrids resonating at a much higher frequency capable of moving through space and time like we can't imagine. the chemtrails could be a sort of amplifier made up of nano-crystalline particles which are meant to wake up the hybrid organisms already transplanted among us. Or if the indigos/hybrids do have all memory and instructions then maybe the chemtrail is the most obvious of possibilities: simply a piece of a larger weapon which is aimed at non-hybridized humans for the sake of weakening our immune system so that the upcoming crash and population decline and stagnant birth rate will go unnoticed by a group of sheep who believe it is because of "too much CO2 in the atmosphere"!! Velikovsky did excellent work on the great flood and attempting to summarize all known evidence from Holy Scripture and also meeting the "scientists" halfway by following their methodology. Of course he was black listed but he was ahead of his times. The more I think about it the more it seems like everything that is going on is all coming down to a judgment in 2012..... call it rapture, end of days, Armageddon, moklavoi, whatever. HAARP, chemtrails, fluoridization, mercury poisoning, vaccinations, earthquake weaponry, everything is all pointing towards a showdown or an upheaval. The news brings more and more examples of how violence and catastrophes are occurring more frequently on a global scale. Chemtrails are one of the weapons in this disturbing and overwhelming plot. I love all of you and hope everyone the best until then..... times are not going to get better I'm afraid so be strong and focus on loved ones and helping out people and tending the flock of sheeple Losing people around me in the passed 7 years to victims of "respiratory failure" caused by the aerosolization program has been very hard. I've like to believe the aerosol program is a global government-backed initiative aimed at increasing barium ambient levels to kill off the sensitive lizards but I know deep down it is a galactic-wide conspiracy illuminati that is beyond our imagination. Our solar system is merely a fraction of what they control and enslave.... how can we hope to do anything against such a vast force except to wait 2 more years until judgment?!!? we need to disconnect and get back to our roots in the land where for 4 winds meet and the eagle feather knows no ground.
SJfreebreather		#6	[-]
(06/01/10 20:49:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Remove this ad Thor... Really? I dont think anyone posting here doesnt understand what aerosols are and that theres natural aerosols. I never said there wasnt. But, honestly, I can already tell from your post and attitude you are beyond talking to, but I like a good challenge... READ THE DOCUMENTS DO YOU REALLY THINK THE GOVT WOULD CALL THE CHEMTRAILS? Aerosol Radiative FORCING... What the hell would you call that? THE PARTICULATES ABSORB RADIATION. ITS IN A FINE AEROSOL. 2+2=... 17? If you are waiting for a govt doc using the term 'chemtrails' for proof, you are too far removed from reality to even begin to 'get' what it is you think you know and what you are talking about. But, Ill go one further... I do have a doc from the US govt and a sitting US Senator... And guess what smart guy... Its got that loaded term 'chemtrails' in it... Oh, but I know, you have already debunked that one huh?
PMAshton		#7	[-]
(06/02/10 06:36:34) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	SJfreebreather, I don't want to sound facetious, but just because you typed "aerosol" or "contrail" into Google Scholar doesn't mean all the papers that returned hits are relevant to the government-sponsored aerosol program. For instance, the following links are to 2 papers which investigate the effects of soil-derived aerosols (e.g. fine clays) on UV radiation. The albedo effect (or "radiative forcing" as coined by the IPCC) was known and studied before the widespread aerosol program was implemented so don't think that any paper mentioning these key terms relates to the aerosol program. http://europa.agu.org/?ur...058.xml&view=article http://irina.eas.gatech.e...pring2008/Miller2004.pdf You cannot include all these papers in your file marked "proof" if you do not scrutinize them in the same manner you would for documents that go against your viewpoints. This is basic objectivity. Contrail formation was being studied in the 1920's and 1930's yet everyone on this board seems to think persistent contrail is a new phenomenon and automatically means a chemtrail. I posted such files once and I was called a shill because I was showing something that threatened the norm, despite the fact I was posting these to help with the knowledge base surrounding the aerosolization program. I seem to be the lone voice here, but if you wish to prove the aerosol program with science and not fairy tale logic (see "shambhala" above), you have to be objective and not resort to petty name calling. Many posts stink of ego, and this doesn't not help with the cause. Proving things in the scientific circle means you have to have the proof on paper, not elusive "documents from senators" in your hands. Your standard of proof has to be higher than that. I'm sure you can find a document where a president says the word "alien" - does that mean we are being hybridized with black aliens or whatever nonsense? The current arguments are obviously not strong enough to stand alone, which is why people get so defensive and angry when challenged. Forget your ego and always remember: the facts must stand on their own. You can't use conjecture and assumptions, that won't convince the mainstream and with good reason. Anyone convinced of the aerosol program by the documents you posted would truly be a sheep, and it is scary to think people like that exist. When searching for the truth you always have to second guess yourself and know that just because it resonates true deep within you, doesn't mean it is actually truth. Many terrible people have done terrible things in this world and they justified it to themselves because "they knew it to be true". That isn't truth, that is ego. Last Edited By: PMAshton 06/02/10 06:39:31. Edited 1 times.
Thor		#8	[-]
(06/02/10 11:27:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	SJ- I am not "beyond talking to". I am happy to discuss in a civil and rational matter. My questions were pertinent, logical and valid. I have actually viewed every document you listed and read -albeit cursory- several. As I mentioned, they all seem to be regarding the studying of particulate matter already in the atmosphere and do not seem to mention dispersing more through a clandestine program of unknown origin and unknown intent. In fact, several of the papers were regarding the study of the pollution of Mexico City specifically. Radiative forcing is the change in net irradiance at the atmospheric boundary between the troposphere and the stratosphere...the difference between incoming and outgoing radiation. This is obviously an important topic in regards to climate change. The roles of aerosols and clouds in radiative forcing are the least well known aspect of the climate change problem and thus it is logical that it would be a topic of significant study. The particulates do indeed absorb radiation...but they also trap radiation- and it is this net difference that they are trying to determine. Don't confuse the term "forcing" with a willful act - much less the act of "spraying" something. That is not the intended meaning when used in atmospheric science. So, perhaps you could explain why you think those documents you linked are, in fact, proof of chemtrails. Last Edited By: Thor 06/02/10 11:30:39. Edited 1 times.
Dennab 2		#9	[-]
(06/05/10 17:18:57) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Even the die-hard "chemmies" (as they are called) have pretty much accepted their lab rat status. The interest, the outrage, and the resolve... all gone. I predicted this would happen, even as more and more info becomes available all over the net. It's like... "Ho Hum". I guess you can only stay pissed off for so long, before it eventually wears you down. I'm so personally burnt out on all the EVIL $hit going on, that I don't even CARE anymore.
shambhala		#10	[-]
(06/13/10 08:47:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This is what they would call a war of attrition. You CANT allow yourself to burn out because we are still in the first generation phase of the spraying........ if we give up early on what hope is there for the others? We have to be the ones that shoulder the burden and attempt to educate others despite the threat of humiliation, intimidation, bodily harm, and far worse. There are more of THEM out there than us... they may grind away at us slow but it is a fine grind and ruthless at that. I don't understand why this place is so quiet. I have been working hard at posting quality information and thoughts but there is never any peep from anyone. I have taken it upon myself to begin to scan and archive all the previous posts on this message board lately. It is important that the information is available and not just stored on one server which can be destroyed or censored selectively. Lots of lies and disinfo of course but it has been an interesting walk in the past seeing familiar names and there is some really good posts on here. Just lately it has taken a nose dive for the worse. Are their alternative forums for discussion of the aerosol operations? I know of several but they are highly suspect and plagued with agents or just trolls. I would be grateful to hear about other forums because I need more input and interaction. There are so many times in the day I just feel like screaming the truth to everyone I see just to relieve the weight but I can't. We need an active membership and we need serious talks and plans of ACTION going on. I've been planning on turning into a hermit and seeking personal salvation in the next year but I think that is giving up too easy in a way. I'm willing to sacrifice my time, emotions, reputation, and personal safety to make this world a better place. This is number one on my agenda and I would love going down for a cause such as this. It isn't just about the truth and saving the blind people of the world I am worried about LIFE of this planet. From the plants to animals and insects you name it the aerosol program is detrimentally affecting them and that is what makes me the most sad and angry. It isn't fair to them to sit back and become complacent or just "burn out" and accept the lot. We have to go down with a fight not just slowly fizzle out because of the stress and anxiety that the feeling of helplessness brings about. I am looking out my window and there is a complete overcast caused by 3 trails being laid out in a perpendicular pattern 4 hours ago. I feel like a lab rat but if a lab rat can only bite one finger at least it can die knowing it has fought and in that fight brought inspiration to the complacent, apathetic watchers. Being complacent is cowardly. Saying you have "burnt out" from this is understandable but also incredible. How can you burn out from the fact that you are being poisoned? How could you ever get used to that and accept it? No one can. Doing that is worse than being like the sheep because you ONCE KNEW and turned your back on it. I'm willing to put up with this until I meet Jesus Christ and even then, in eternity, I will try to petition G-D to throw down a few lightning bolts or plagues if He could
Dennab 2		#11	[-]
(06/13/10 18:36:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Quote: "You CANT allow yourself to burn out because we are still in the first generation phase of the spraying........ if we give up early on what hope is there for the others? We have to be the ones that shoulder the burden and attempt to educate others despite the threat of humiliation, intimidation, bodily harm, and far worse. " Well, I've been at this hard for 11 years now, and that's enough. At the end of that 11 years, all I see is the same thing. People who DO NOT CARE. So, I do not care about THEM. When you blow the trumpet, and all it does is make people think you are nuts, then you tend to put the trumpet on the shelf. It gets really old after a decade of the same result. After all is said and done, endless research, countless arguments, innumerable e-mails, letters and phone calls, and not a damn thing has happened to stop (or even slow down in the slightest way) the ongoing perpetual aerosol program. Quote: "I don't understand why this place is so quiet. I have been working hard at posting quality information and thoughts but there is never any peep from anyone." I get the feeling that there's a LOT that you don't understand. If you were here in the early days, as I was, then you'd be able to answer your own question. Quote: "I'm willing to sacrifice my time, emotions, reputation, and personal safety to make this world a better place." Well, Mr. Johnny-come-lately... BEEN THERE.... DONE THAT... and THEN some. I've sacrifed ENOUGH time, emotions, reputation, and personal safety. For NOTHING. I'm not wasting the rest of what's left of my time, attempting to get the comatose to care about, or even to BELIEVE in, what is going on right over their head. I'll just pass the torch to you, Mr. Gung Ho. I've discussed the same things, over and over and over and over and over. And it always come back to starting all over again from ground zero, whether dealing with a scum-sucking troll/shill, or a complete ignoramus who won't lift a finger to investigate the obvious. Quote: "I feel like a lab rat but if a lab rat can only bite one finger at least it can die knowing it has fought and in that fight brought inspiration to the complacent, apathetic watchers." You really crack me up... Newbie. It's like you are totally oblivious to what went on with this forum 10 years ago. You act like there aren't any others who fought ten times harder than you ever dreamed of, 10 YEARS AGO, while you were still oblivious. Quote: "Being complacent is cowardly. Saying you have "burnt out" from this is understandable but also incredible. How can you burn out from the fact that you are being poisoned? " If you are calling me a "coward", then you are one DUMB and IGNORANT mother f-er. And expecting me to stay invigorated over this issue after this many years, is just plain stupid. You wanted to know what happened to everybody? Why this forum is dead? That's like showing up at the end of a raging battle, and questioning those still left alive as to why they aren't frosty and gung ho, like you who weren't even THERE during the fighting. I got news for you Private... You MISSED the war. All those who were champions for the cause finally realized that when you keep doing the same things, you achieve the SAME results... which happens to equal NADA. What is that YOU are doing, that even comes CLOSE to what WE did, in the last 11 years?You have NO IDEA how many hours I have dedicated to this issue, and you have the GALL to imply "cowardice"?? And you ask how can I burn out from being poisoned? How can I NOT burn out from being poisoned? You want me to stay wound up like a guitar string over something that I can't do a DAMN THING ABOUT, no matter HOW hard I've tried? You want me to stay stressed out, on top of being poisoned? I'll leave that to you now, mister brave keyboard warrior. Let's see how much you get accomplished. How bout I check back with you in 10 years, and see how gung ho you are then. And we'll see what's been accomplished to stop the aerosl program, as a result of your "superior" efforts.
shambhala		#12	[-]
(06/14/10 07:32:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Remove this ad Keyboard Warrior?? Well they already know everything about me so why not add more personal information? Cut through the anonymity and open my heart and let everyone know what I have suffered as a result of taking up a cause no one wants to hear about. 7 years ago I was almost kicked out of college for posting and handing out pamphlets as well as trying to rally people (or "inciting violence" as they called it). During that time I lost almost all my friends while trying to push awareness about the aerosol program. I can't count the number of times I was called crazy, a wacko, much worse. There were physical confrontations over the matter. People became aggressive when I would not back down. I have since lost my fiancee, relations with most of my remaining friends, family, and a job due to my focus and perseverance. My fiancee made me go to a dreaded psychiatrist to talk and I almost swallowed those damn pills and not object to the diagnosis because I didn't want her to leave. I even began doubting my sanity for a time... if I wrote my beliefs and knowledge on a piece of paper it would seem crazy to the average sheep but I have learned these things over time in small manageable increments that further strengthen my resolve and spiritual nature. Some things are more important than ourselves. Where does the time go? I have no bank or credit account, I have refused to pay taxes this year because I will not fund government-sponsored atrocities, I have destroyed my personal computer and any household electronics in my possession. Last year I purchased 120 hectares of forest and have begun returning to Mother Earth. I will be fully self-sufficient this time next year. 10 years, if we are all still alive and there is still an internet, you will not see me because I will have been out of the system for a long time. I am trying to build a 14 hectare orgone accumulator/passive emitter in hopes my oasis will be free of poison. I am prepared for failure but I must at least try. It is something I have always thought when reading this and many other forums: what is your day job? Because I believe most of these people (probably you as well) are "weekend keyboard warriors". You work a job that contributes to the global pain and suffering but you do it because "you have to eat and make money to rent" as you convince yourself. Then you get home and flick on your heavy metal, radiation-emitting computer and begin preaching online. Or maybe you tell yourself that your job is a means to an end or you are "fighting the system from the inside". I call bullshit. Well you know what, I may not have been on Carnicom's website 10 years ago but I was beginning to learn the truth. I am archiving the previous posts for sake of posterity and hard copies but the fact is I DON'T CARE about the politics of this website 10 years ago. Keep your damn ego trip to yourself. Don't tell me about arriving to the battle late when I've sacrificed everything I once had because I couldn't shy away from the burning truth. When I leave my safe area and disconnect the computer I do not "go back to reality" because this IS MY REALITY. These aerosol operations and the effects they are having on Mother Earth have been the driving force and fulcrum of my life for the past decade. I'm not going to try to enjoy my next years by focusing on my ego and dabbling in pleasures to forget what is going on 20,000 feet above my head. That is a copout and I'm sorry it IS cowardly. No one can say they are burnt out and "don't care" about something as monstrous as what is going on now and expect any sympathy or understanding. Lines are being drawn in the sand and sides are being taken. If you are in the complacent middle do you think you will be saved by either side? You are with the actively cause or actively against it, no in between. If 10 years is too much you should plug yourself back into the matrix and enjoy the sheep life again. I'll fight until I drop dead. Burn out? That would be a luxury to me. Becoming bored or apathetic would at least end the pain I have felt and save me time, energy, money, relationships, you name it. This has nothing to do with my ego or feeling superior to anyone over who has done more or who is more serious about the cause. I have lost everything I possibly could have and I still have the energy to keep fighting. Being alone and having no one is a burden we all must shoulder if we want to disconnect from the system and fight it. You are burning out because your plan was to argue until you turned blue in the face. Surprise surprise that didn't do anything. We always point outwards and cherish our "real life privacy" and people even live online double lives. Well I DON'T. Lets talk about REAL LIFE ACTION with some details instead of melodramatic and vague claims of "fighting the battle from the beginning". After 4 years of letter writing I had to stop. If it gets you nowhere why would you keep doing it or devote so much energy into something so fruitless? This dualistic nature of online/offline has got to end because people are beginning to think what they do online somehow reflects The Real Life and amounts to effort. What have others done IN REAL LIFE for the cause? This is the real question.

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